Echo: Mr Lim, can you please share with 
          us your experiences when you were schooling in ACS?
          
          Mr Lim: ACS gave me a lot of opportunity 
          for experience and exposure, be it in running societies, learning to 
          work with others or lessons in leading. My time in the Boys’ Brigade 
          (BB) was particularly impactful: I rose to the rank of Colour Sergeant 
          and was the drum major. The BB was where I learnt how the 
          demands on the leader means both taking on responsibility as well as 
          offers a deep sense of fulfillment in doing something important and 
          worthwhile through people and with people.
          
          Echo: What were the forces that drove you 
          to excel in school and to become a President’s Scholar?
          
          Mr Lim: I never pushed to be top boy or 
          President’s Scholar or anything. It was just a matter of doing as well 
          as I could in whatever I had to do. This applied to every situation, 
          whether in studies, prefectorial duties, helping fellow students, or 
          whatever. I think too many people mistake “excellence” to mean 
          “outstanding”. To me, “excellence” simply means being the best 
          you can be. So if you are capable of 100 marks but scored 90, you have 
          done only a 90% job; but if you are capable of 70 marks and scored 70, 
          you have done a 100% job.
          
          Echo: In school, did you have plans for a 
          public service career?
          
          Mr Lim: I am possibly one of the most 
          “ambition-less” people you can find.  I certainly had no plans like 
          wanting a career or other, I think most parents at that time felt that 
          a public service career would always be a great idea because it 
          offered security. We need to recognise that having a job was a most 
          valuable thing for our parents, and so making sure their children had 
          a good education so they could find a good job was the greatest 
          contribution they could make for their children’s future. 
          
          How I landed up in the public service was 
          straight and simple: there was no way I could have got to university, 
          whether local or abroad, without a scholarship. My father was a taxi 
          driver, my mother a schoolteacher. When I was offered a Colombo Plan 
          Scholarship to Australia, it was a great opening for getting to 
          university. It could just as well have been a scholarship to Canada or 
          the United Kingdom or wherever. As they say, “beggars cannot be 
          choosers”. 
          
          With the scholarship came a bond, which was 
          ‘good’ as it meant you would have a ‘guaranteed job’. It never 
          occurred to me that a bond was a burden or something to be broken.  
          When you take something from the government, it is totally fair to 
          give back, no questions asked.  Incidentally, just to show how much 
          the issue for me was simply to get a scholarship to university, I did 
          not know where I would be going to in Australia when I left Singapore; 
          the group of us went to Sydney, where we had a kind of introductory 
          programme for a couple of weeks, and then only did I learn I would be 
          going to the University of Adelaide.
          
          Echo: Would you say that the ACS brand of 
          education has something to do with preparing incumbents for a public 
          service career?
          
          Mr Lim: No. If we look at the list of 
          Permanent Secretaries and CEOs of statutory boards, there are 
          certainly many more not from ACS than there are from ACS. But there is 
          one thing absolutely critical for me personally in my work, and that 
          is the “fear of God”. I came to God through ACS, though people can 
          come to God in a multitude of ways, and we all must very much hope 
          that ACS is not the only way because the reach will be far too small.
          
          The public service summarises its core values as 
          Integrity, Service and Excellence. It is one thing to join the public 
          service and subscribe intellectually and even by action to these 
          values. It is another when you know that the driving force to observe 
          those values in the way you lead your people run your organisation and 
          relate to those around you, is the inner motivation based on being 
          true to Jesus Christ and His Word. The statement I strive always to 
          make in my words and my actions is: I can be trusted because I 
          am a Christian; I seek to serve to the best of my ability because the 
          Bible says in 1 Corinthians 10:31 “whatever you do, do it all for the 
          glory of God”. As a public officer, I must treat all people equally, 
          irrespective of race, language or religion, but the drive to serve 
          with excellence and the way I treat people comes from Christ.
          
          Echo: What advice can you offer to our 
          young students to help them chart their lives and careers?
          
          Mr Lim: Learn all you can. Stop 
          complaining. Do something. Look at difficulties and obstacles as 
          opportunities to learn new things. You can never forever be on top. 
          And you will never forever stay down. Be humble in achievement. Be 
          circumspect in failure. Forgive. Honour your parents. God has given 
          you talents. Do not waste them. Jesus loves you. Follow Him.
          
          Echo: Can you share with us some of the 
          challenges you faced in your illustrious career and what you have 
          learned from them?
          
          Mr Lim: Perhaps the most important thing 
          I have learnt in all my years of work in the public sector is the 
          centrality of people for all things, though I am sure this applies to 
          all organizations, not only the government. People can make or break 
          organizations. They can make the workplace either energizing and 
          challenging, or enervating and boring. The deepest challenges are 
          therefore leadership and the management of change. How can we create 
          an environment where everyone is doing the best he or she can do, and 
          feels there is the chance to be the best he or she can be?  This is a 
          never-ending challenge, for which we have to recognise that people are 
          not just physical and mental beings, but are also social, emotional 
          and spiritual beings.
          
          Echo: Do you have any advice to offer 
          students aspiring for a career in the public service sector?
          
          Mr Lim:  The public service offers 
          wonderful opportunities for self-development and for contribution to 
          your fellow citizens. Where else can you find the chance to do 
          something that affects so many people in so many different ways for so 
          many years into the future? If you keep chasing the material things of 
          the world, or the things that simply are nice and convenient and 
          comfortable to you, you will soon discover that life has little 
          meaning and purpose because you are spending your time and energies on 
          yourself. The sense of purpose and fulfilment lies in contributing to 
          the lives of others. Be “inner-driven” but “other-centred”. Some will 
          find the opportunities for this in the public sector, some in the 
          private sector, some in the people sector. See where your aptitudes 
          and interests lie.  But seek, most of all, to be sure that God 
          will be pleased to find you wherever you are.